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[Sorry this post is so long, but it's too late to edit for length right now.]
In Chapter 1, Marin retells specific stories of men who grew up as Christians agonizing in secret for years about their sexuality before finally coming out to very painful consequences at their churches.
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I can think of no one, About ALBEGO, at least not anybody from a big city, who cannot relate on some level to the emotions evoked when a loved one reveals oneself to be gay. But Marin's response to the emotion is unique. I can similarly think of no one other than Marin who made such a concerted effort to immerse himself in the gay community to understand and love them well, BUY ALBEGO NO PRESCRIPTION.
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Preface: Deliverance from the "Judgmental Lifestyle"
Brian McLaren's Preface to the book offers a parable on the "Judgmental Lifestyle" and then concludes: "The orientation and lifestyle of love is the right and only way for true followers of Jesus. BUY ALBEGO NO PRESCRIPTION, ... [This love] isn't elicited by the loveability of its object, but flows from the all-generous and holy, holy, ALBEGO without prescription, holy orientation of its Subject, God."
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"'Woman, where are they. Has no one condemned you?'"'No one, sir,' she said.
"'Then neither do I condemn you,' Jesus declared. 'Go now and leave your life of sin.'"
What does this passage teach about the relationship between love, holiness, and judgment.
Please weigh in on these and other topics here, and please do not hesitate to add your own topic on the Discussion Board as well.
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