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By Jeremy | December 12, 2008
BUY MEGA HOODIA NO PRESCRIPTION, I don't usually post IM transcripts cuz they can b tricky 2read, but this is the first time I've attempted to put in writing (if you can call IM writing) an idea that has been percolating for at least a year. If the idea is ever going to materialize, I need your help. Canada, mexico, india, Let's call this open source youth ministry 2.0. Interested? Thoughts in comment section please.
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am: sure, shoot
jdr: since u actually know how to build websites and stuff
and i just pretend
am: lol
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but we both know ym is irrelevenat if its not happening (at least in part) online
am: right
jdr: so for all the ym guys without budgets they're in a catch 22
am: indeed they are
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jdr: ha
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am: hmmm... thinking
well, you looking to develop something like that?
jdr: i want to
am: and where would these new sites live?
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my first thought is to teach people how to use the free stuff out there to its max
jdr: im thinking they wld have to be entirely built on blogging architecture
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jdr: which is free and customizable
am: building a CMS [content management system] from scratch is 50k min
jdr: yeah, we dont want that
then it wldnt be free :)
am: but wordpress is free
jdr: exactly
and it has a gazillion widgets
am: free to set up and run too, order MEGA HOODIA online c.o.d. Buy MEGA HOODIA online cod, jdr: theoretically if the instructions were available it wld be free to set up
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jrd: but the point is free or almost free, its a crazy low cost way to market the ym
and bc of open source freeware etc its doable
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you want to build a set of instructions for a youth worker to set up and build a youth group website that costs zero to set up and is free to run
jdr: pretty much
free or low cost
am: i think that's doable
jdr: like my site costs me $109 per yr for domain and storage
am: right
jdr: i cld probly get a better deal
but for now thats what i pay
am: thats about the going rate
jdr: everything else is free
actually, i do pay for a pro flickr membership too
forgot that
am: yeah
jdr: otherwise everything is free
i think im ahead of the curve but im still just scratching the surface when it comes to plugins and widgets
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you "could" do it completely for free just by creating a WP blog with the instructions
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am: right, MEGA HOODIA forum, Purchase MEGA HOODIA online, that's doable
you can get a software thing for your mac call "ishowu" that's $20 and make tutorials, upload them to youtube
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jdr: ha
thats why im recruiting the tech guru [like you] to the cause
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jdr: yeah, im not trying to get in the web development business
mostly just want to further an open source approach to ym
am: the thing is, if you say you will help people they will take you up on it
jdr: well, then dont say ur gonna troubleshoot their sites
just create a model, offer instructions, and then open source the forum that discusses how to further improve, troubleshoot, etc
touche
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am: lol
jdr: i can just lose sleep
thinking abt another gr8 idea that i cant complete
am: we don't want to do web hosting or support
jdr: so ... dont host or support ... open source it so users support it themselves
and point them to free or low-cost host providers
am: i think that's a great way to go
yeah
i do agree with you that WP is a great free utility for youth groups
and there is a TON of free stuff out there
i don't think a blog or website reaches kids IMO
facebook, maybe.
jdr: well, thats actually part two
fb widgets are where its at (at least for now)
but FB widgets need a back end somewhere
to make them useful
am: agreed
jdr: thats open source internet ym 2.0
am: they don't qualify as free to develop
jdr: well, i dont know enough abt developing them to know
but im thinking we create a common methodology for yms to create websites
and then figuring out how to mine those website with a widget becomes possible
have u seen sergy brin's vid from his lecture at berkley.
am: no
jdr: http://jeremydelrio.com/blog/2008/12/03/wednesday-weekly-webcast-54/
the sergy video is long, but check out the article i excerpted underneath it
about freemium
am: i think a good place for you to start would be to work with [other ym bloggers] and build a blog "how to make a free YG site"
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Topics: blogger, blogging, google, internet, media, open source, technology, Wordpress, youth ministry, youth ministry 2.0 | 20 Comments »
December 12th, 2008 at 9:01 pm
I have ishowu. it’s great. We’ve talked about this a few times before and I think it’s totally doable and maybe even cheaper than you mention, and I think people who use it would also support the project and add to some of the support threads, etc. I think it’s one of those things that culd broaden and develop (like a snowball downhill) as time goes on and technology advances. So is the idea that you would host the “Open Source Project” or Andrew or someone else?
December 12th, 2008 at 9:20 pm
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December 12th, 2008 at 9:21 pm
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December 12th, 2008 at 10:33 pm
Josh, that’s probably not something we want to replicate.
Ben, I’m pretty sure I don’t want to host anything in the tech sense of the word, but I definitely would consider “hosting” if that means facilitating. Andrew on the other hand, might be a perfect tech host via urbanministry.org.
Andrew, what say you?
December 12th, 2008 at 10:42 pm
I actually wrote a tutorial like this a year and a half ago:
http://timschmoyer.com/2007/06/07/how-to-build-an-interactive-youth-group-website/
It uses Joomla, not WordPress, though.
I’m not sure it’s necessary to create a youth ministry service of free websites because there’s already so many other options out there that work quite well. Your blog post mentioned WordPress and blogger, which are good, but there’s also Ning.com and Terapad.com that offer more social aspects than a blog.
Even if you did create a service that’s free for ministries based on WordPress, it’s hard to keep it going because the target audience (non-techies) will always screw it up… always… somehow, someway, you’ll have to support it. Or they’re always asking basic questions where they essentially want you to do something for them because they have a mental block that they can’t learn it on their own. Sounds harsh, but it’s true. Plus, don’t forget about all the security updates and patches you’ll have to apply to the CMS on a regular basis. It’ll be a lot of work, patience, and attention to keep something like that going.
December 12th, 2008 at 10:43 pm
Tim,
This is great, thanks! No need to reinvent the wheel.
I wonder if we could help overcome the mental blocks with a series of step-by-step installation instructions for the various components? I know the various component websites offer such instructions, but sometimes they are written in tech-speak which average unpaid, non techie youth people find intimidating.
Did you ever develop that business? Would you ever consider making your idea of a turnkey, pre-configured database available to people online?
J
December 12th, 2008 at 10:45 pm
Step-by-step instructions could be made available for other components, and a “ready to go” database could also be made available. The only problem is, with all the updates and security patches that continually come out, it would be a big job to keep the package up to date and secure.
Plus, people who are running sites based on the previous versions of the website package would be lost as to how to update and secure their sites. Some hosts even require that you made these updates within a timely fashion so their own servers remain safe.
Using a ready-to-go website package for people to use would still require that they purchase a hosting plan, setup a domain, and all that stuff, too.
Given all of this, I still think it’s MUCH better to go with a hosted solution where you don’t have to worry about any of this: WordPress.com, Ning.com, Terapad.com, Blogger.com, are all better solutions.
And yes, I did start a ministry website company, but it’s not free and it uses a MUCH more user-friendly and slicker CMS than Joomla or even WordPress. It’s really targeted at the audience you’re addressing — the non-techy people who just wanna click on what they want to update, type it in, and click submit. You can find more here: http://www.ministrywebsites.biz
December 12th, 2008 at 11:18 pm
In Matthew 10:8 Jesus says “Freely you have received, freely give.”
December 13th, 2008 at 8:19 am
Great. My only advice is, prepare yourselves — the mission may not be as readily accepted as you think. We’ve been doing this sort of thing (but not nearly as well as you guys are planning) for years, and it is still hard for non-web folks to suddenly embrace even free/easy tools and become web-folks.
Visit http://AskAnythingSaturday.com and see the ‘Internet Tool Kit’ there. If anything helps, great. If you have ideas you’d like to contribute there, please do.
Blessings.
-Neil
December 13th, 2008 at 4:55 pm
Still processing…
December 14th, 2008 at 12:09 am
Intriguing, but I’m definitely in the category of non-techie who would be making use of the instructional manuals.
December 14th, 2008 at 8:04 pm
Jeremy, here to answer your page
I think the idea is great, and as an open-source voluntary effort, a manual or website + manual can be compiled to help people learn to use WordPress and Blogger. Some non-techies already do that, and that’s why there are millions of people with a web presence of some sort, be it on MySpace, Facebook, YouTube, Blogger, or WordPress. So the technology part is actually easy.
I think the more challenging part is knowing what content to provide, and realizing how often one has to update the profile or website. This is where people need a lil’ coaching to say here’s what you can type out and/or say, and to make an update once a week or more often.
December 14th, 2008 at 9:05 pm
not much more to add here except one personal tidbit. the reason i stay on blogspot [well besides being cheap...] is that i think it’s a pretty good precedent for doing something very inexpensively and functional. granted, my design probably isn’t that great, but i think it’s overall pretty functional. one big thing we tried to do was to make all admin digital as well – mission applications, support letter material, etc. – all downloadable. we achieved that last summer and it made our processes much more adapatable and streamlined.
December 15th, 2008 at 4:01 pm
I think you summed up my thoughts with “i can just lose sleep thinking abt another gr8 idea that i cant completeâ€
I think it’s a good idea, but for it to work you would have to have a crazy low cost structure. The ideal person for this would be a over achieving urban teen, or someone who wants to use this as an entry into Web design/development.
Basically what you are talking about is doing a Web equivalent of a lot of the low cost urban graphics designers. The name of the game is high volume and low cost. You can see an example at: http://www.nexgraphix.com/home.html. Most of these companies focus on low cost print, so there is a lot of room for low-cost websites.
December 15th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
Andrew,
Actually my idea isn’t low cost; it’s no cost. (I think; please correct me if there are hidden costs I’m missing.)
Do you think open sourcing strategies for developing youth ministry websites is worth the energy? Particular youth ministries might decide to incur costs (domain purchases, dedicated servers, hiring someone to customize the strategy), but at the end of the day such costs would be optional. The point is to gameplan a no-co$t/high reward option for youth ministries without a budget and then identify low-cost alternatives for groups with minimal budgets.
Thanks for helping me/us think this through.
December 15th, 2008 at 4:03 pm
My assumption is that everything has cost, with the cost I was talking about would be the cost of the time for someone to set this up.
December 15th, 2008 at 6:17 pm
Talk about a fresh idea!
I love this.
With the economy tanking, youth leaders beyond the urban environment might also find your creativity a way to sustain strong ministry while the board cuts their budgets.
I will pass this on to my students.
December 19th, 2008 at 7:37 pm
As the “AM” in this conversation, I just want to say that the idea of doing free web help for youth workers scares me to death!
However, I do like this idea a lot: http://fulleryouthinstitute.org/2008/12/open-source-advocacyopen-source-youth-ministry/
I’m in this with open arms!
December 24th, 2008 at 12:36 am
set up one really awesome domain…
http://www.genxcel.com (its still available)
use multi-user wordpress
wp-mu if set up properly should work like the following site
http://www.lockergnome.com
all of the blogs are then streamed to the homepage of this site.
each individual site if you click on a few from the homepage are setup with the same basic functionality and then they can tweak the theme a bit with a header and background etc.
here are 2 examples from that network
http://www.lockergnome.com/leftystrat
http://www.lockergnome.com/creedence
they wrecked their themes a bit but you should be able to get the point…
My suggestion would be to set up a very nicely designed theme and allow people to customize it a bit themselves. You provide all the widgets/web 2.0 stuff prepackaged.
Also, you can either charge $5 a month for this service or even $1 or you can throw your adsense on their. With some coding you could do a 50/50 revenue share with the owners of individual blogs. This way when traffic from the homepage is driven to particular articles and people click on ads.. you can generate revenue and so does the author.
It would be reciprocal… the more popular the site gets the more each author can make and individual blogs could thrive directly which could in turn promote the site as a whole and other blogs/youth groups/programs.
December 31st, 2008 at 2:21 pm
It sounds simple enough. Creating a basic site without all the extra widgets is pretty easy, once you get past the initial setup.
And that’s where the support forum comes in handy for those who get creative when reading instruction manuals. We just need to make sure there’s enough people linked up to the forums to offer some help.