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+ For those who believe the Sean Bell tragedy was less about race and more about police tactics or training: Is there ever an appropriate time for a cop to shoot to kill. For police who begin their days knowing that they could die on the job -- like the specialized unit investigating the notorious Kalua Club for alleged drugs and prostitution -- is it really just to say that they shouldn't have fired the first shot even if they reasonably felt that their lives were threatened (after one cop and a police vehicle had been hit by the car Sean Bell was driving).
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I wouldn't want any of them shot by cops or anyone else, one time or fifty times. Nor would I want any of them in such a situation to begin with. And I certainly wouldn't want their behavior to make someone with a gun feel threatened.
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+ New York Times coverage
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+ Justice for Sean: the Sean Bell family website
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May 1st, 2008 at 1:56 pm
You can’t ever have a case of a shooting where a police officer fires on a minority without racism being levied because of race-baiting money mongers like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson.
When they learned that the cops who fired were not white, but black, latino and arab. They then said oh doesn’t matter what color the cop is they learn to hate and wanna kill minorities anyway. Then the Arab guy is suddenly classified as white. Please.
People leave strip clubs all the time and never get shot at or die. Unofrtunately it has nothing to do with race, it has to do with the neighborhood. A well to do neighborhood, nothing would happen, but in a poor neighborhood stuff happens.
I have nothing but empathy and sadness for his family.
But from what we read in the papers, Sean Bell and his buddies rammed a police van and also hit a cop with their car. As they were prepping for a second ramming, they were shot on. It took a matter of seconds for all those shots to be fired.
A tragedy, excessive force? At best maybe, no one is perfect. Yesterday there was a kid who had a gun and held a girl hostage. The cops handled that without loss of life.
If people expect perfection and paradise, you won’t get it in this broken world. Be like Jesus, spend time with him, share his good news with everyone. If everyone followed Jesus and knew him, you wouldn’t have this happening.
It wasn’t racism.
May 1st, 2008 at 2:04 pm
You ask lots of yes / no questions. Of course the answers are both yes and no. I do think there is another way forward. And yet finding a way through requires a kind of trust and creativity that few are equipped to lead. But, until we are able to positively articulate and socially embody such a way activists will protest and police will protect themselves and their own.
I think it helps to ask good questions, but that’s just the beginning. Cynics and marxists ask questions to break open the closed system where we get stuck. Academics argue over the right questions so that they can publish books. Meanwhile little changes and frustrations mount all around.
May 1st, 2008 at 2:46 pm
That is definitely a lot to absorb. I have spent some time thinking about the issue and I find myself understanding the perspective of both the activist and the cops. On one hand, they are trained to shoot to kill if their lives are in danger, but when you hear stories where lives weren’t lost. Police officers will do everything in their power to keep people alive, and rightly so. On the other hand, 50 SHOTS!!! How can you possibly justify that? Maybe its because I am not a cop, but I don’t understand how someone can say that the first 20 shots didn’t kill the person, considering that cops are TRAINED to shoot to kill. Either they are not well-trained and missed the first 30 shots, or there was anger, revenge, out of control behavior and/or misjudgment on behalf of the cops. Was Sean Bell and his friends at fault, of course, but to the point where 50 shots were fired, I have a problem with that.
Dialogue needs to take place, especially in our schools. Our children are our present, as well as our future and if these issues are not addressed, this will happen again and again and again. Our students already have issues of trust with authority and police officers, whose to say that they won’t grow up to be adults who don’t trust cops and find themselves in the same situation as Sean and his friends, ramming their cars into cop cars because they don’t like them. Do we want this for our children?
We need to have police officers in our schools talking to our kids and allowing the children to have a voice. This opportunity might even allow our officers to shed some light to our kids and adults like myself. Whether this was an issue about race or not, the point is we need to talk about it and my first priority are our children. Jeremy, maybe Jaime and a few others, can come in and talk to the kids at an assembly. (just a thought)
There is more in my mind about the issue, but this was a great starting point. Thanks for the platform to share.
May 1st, 2008 at 2:51 pm
Jason, what does that way forward look like? If we start by at least admitting the possibility that things may not be entirely as we perceive them, then maybe a different kind of conversation could be had? One which seeks reconciliation and justice (as in fixing broken systems), not just blame and revenge?
May 1st, 2008 at 2:56 pm
Dorothy, I love the idea of cops dialoguing with kids in our schools. What might that look like? Is that the kind of things that teachers need to initiate, or is it the responsibility of the NYPD? What kind of role is there a role for activists, nonprofits, and churches in that process?
May 1st, 2008 at 2:58 pm
P, granted, the race baiting is excessive. But in your opinion is there anything constructive that we can learning from Sharpton, Jackson, et al? If not, how should we engage them (and the millions who respect their opinions)? Simply ignore them or name call?
May 1st, 2008 at 3:11 pm
I say we ignore them until they stop doing things out of ulterior motives.
It seems there is only outrage from the crooks, when it involves white on black or police on black.
Statistics show that 87% of all crime committed against blacks are by blacks. Where is their outrage when the bloods and crips are out shooting each other each killing innocents?
Where are they on the issue of illegitimate children in the black community. More than 50% of all black children are born out of wedlock and daddy’s are nowhere to be found?
If Jackson and Sharpton stopped race-baiting and crying wolf all the time and didn’t get involved only when money and more airtime could be gained, perhaps I would listen to them.
Maybe if they spoke about Jesus being the solution as they should, being so-called ministers, maybe I would listen.
But when I hear about their rich, oppulent lifestyles, mistresses and money being sent to their friends and their shady deals, I will not listen.