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	<title>Comments on: Paging DJ, Ben, Adam, Marko, CB, Rudy, Kekoa, Tony, Andrew, Jordon, Jamie, Neil, and any other techies who care about reaching youth</title>
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		<title>By: Kekoa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kekoa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 18:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It sounds simple enough. Creating a basic site without all the extra widgets is pretty easy, once you get past the initial setup.

And that&#039;s where the support forum comes in handy for those who get creative when reading instruction manuals. We just need to make sure there&#039;s enough people linked up to the forums to offer some help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds simple enough. Creating a basic site without all the extra widgets is pretty easy, once you get past the initial setup.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s where the support forum comes in handy for those who get creative when reading instruction manuals. We just need to make sure there&#8217;s enough people linked up to the forums to offer some help.</p>
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		<title>By: ken rossi</title>
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		<dc:creator>ken rossi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 04:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>set up one really awesome domain... 
www.genxcel.com (its still available)

use multi-user wordpress

wp-mu if set up properly should work like the following site

www.lockergnome.com

all of the blogs are then streamed to the homepage of this site.

each individual site if you click on a few from the homepage are setup with the same basic functionality and then they can tweak the theme a bit with a header and background etc.

here are 2 examples from that network
http://www.lockergnome.com/leftystrat
http://www.lockergnome.com/creedence

they wrecked their themes a bit but you should be able to get the point...

My suggestion would be to set up a very nicely designed theme and allow people to customize it a bit themselves.  You provide all the widgets/web 2.0 stuff prepackaged. 

Also, you can either charge $5 a month for this service or even $1 or you can throw your adsense on their.  With some coding you could do a 50/50 revenue share with the owners of individual blogs.  This way when traffic from the homepage is driven to particular articles and people click on ads.. you can generate revenue and so does the author.

It would be reciprocal... the more popular the site gets the more each author can make and individual blogs could thrive directly which could in turn promote the site as a whole and other blogs/youth groups/programs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>set up one really awesome domain&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://www.genxcel.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.genxcel.com</a> (its still available)</p>
<p>use multi-user wordpress</p>
<p>wp-mu if set up properly should work like the following site</p>
<p><a href="http://www.lockergnome.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.lockergnome.com</a></p>
<p>all of the blogs are then streamed to the homepage of this site.</p>
<p>each individual site if you click on a few from the homepage are setup with the same basic functionality and then they can tweak the theme a bit with a header and background etc.</p>
<p>here are 2 examples from that network<br />
<a href="http://www.lockergnome.com/leftystrat" rel="nofollow">http://www.lockergnome.com/leftystrat</a><br />
<a href="http://www.lockergnome.com/creedence" rel="nofollow">http://www.lockergnome.com/creedence</a></p>
<p>they wrecked their themes a bit but you should be able to get the point&#8230;</p>
<p>My suggestion would be to set up a very nicely designed theme and allow people to customize it a bit themselves.  You provide all the widgets/web 2.0 stuff prepackaged. </p>
<p>Also, you can either charge $5 a month for this service or even $1 or you can throw your adsense on their.  With some coding you could do a 50/50 revenue share with the owners of individual blogs.  This way when traffic from the homepage is driven to particular articles and people click on ads.. you can generate revenue and so does the author.</p>
<p>It would be reciprocal&#8230; the more popular the site gets the more each author can make and individual blogs could thrive directly which could in turn promote the site as a whole and other blogs/youth groups/programs.</p>
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		<title>By: adam mclane</title>
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		<dc:creator>adam mclane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 23:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As the &quot;AM&quot; in this conversation, I just want to say that the idea of doing free web help for youth workers scares me to death!

However, I do like this idea a lot: http://fulleryouthinstitute.org/2008/12/open-source-advocacyopen-source-youth-ministry/

I&#039;m in this with open arms!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the &#8220;AM&#8221; in this conversation, I just want to say that the idea of doing free web help for youth workers scares me to death!</p>
<p>However, I do like this idea a lot: <a href="http://fulleryouthinstitute.org/2008/12/open-source-advocacyopen-source-youth-ministry/" rel="nofollow">http://fulleryouthinstitute.org/2008/12/open-source-advocacyopen-source-youth-ministry/</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m in this with open arms!</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Ross</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talk about a fresh idea!

I love this.

With the economy tanking, youth leaders beyond the urban environment might also find your creativity a way to sustain strong ministry while the board cuts their budgets.

I will pass this on to my students.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talk about a fresh idea!</p>
<p>I love this.</p>
<p>With the economy tanking, youth leaders beyond the urban environment might also find your creativity a way to sustain strong ministry while the board cuts their budgets.</p>
<p>I will pass this on to my students.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Sears</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Sears</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My assumption is that everything has cost, with the cost I was talking about would be the cost of the time for someone to set this up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My assumption is that everything has cost, with the cost I was talking about would be the cost of the time for someone to set this up.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew,

Actually my idea isn&#039;t low cost; it&#039;s no cost. (I think; please correct me if there are hidden costs I&#039;m missing.)

Do you think open sourcing strategies for developing youth ministry websites is worth the energy?  Particular youth ministries might decide to incur costs (domain purchases, dedicated servers, hiring someone to customize the strategy), but at the end of the day such costs would be optional.  The point is to gameplan a no-co$t/high reward option for youth ministries without a budget and then identify low-cost alternatives for groups with minimal budgets.


Thanks for helping me/us think this through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew,</p>
<p>Actually my idea isn&#8217;t low cost; it&#8217;s no cost. (I think; please correct me if there are hidden costs I&#8217;m missing.)</p>
<p>Do you think open sourcing strategies for developing youth ministry websites is worth the energy?  Particular youth ministries might decide to incur costs (domain purchases, dedicated servers, hiring someone to customize the strategy), but at the end of the day such costs would be optional.  The point is to gameplan a no-co$t/high reward option for youth ministries without a budget and then identify low-cost alternatives for groups with minimal budgets.</p>
<p>Thanks for helping me/us think this through.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Sears</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Sears</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you summed up my thoughts with “i can just lose sleep thinking abt another gr8 idea that i cant complete”

 

I think it’s a good idea, but for it to work you would have to have a crazy low cost structure.  The ideal person for this would be a over achieving urban teen, or someone who wants to use this as an entry into Web design/development. 

 

Basically what you are talking about is doing a Web equivalent of a lot of the low cost urban graphics designers.  The name of the game is high volume and low cost.  You can see an example at: http://www.nexgraphix.com/home.html.   Most of these companies focus on low cost print, so there is a lot of room for low-cost websites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you summed up my thoughts with “i can just lose sleep thinking abt another gr8 idea that i cant complete”</p>
<p>I think it’s a good idea, but for it to work you would have to have a crazy low cost structure.  The ideal person for this would be a over achieving urban teen, or someone who wants to use this as an entry into Web design/development. </p>
<p>Basically what you are talking about is doing a Web equivalent of a lot of the low cost urban graphics designers.  The name of the game is high volume and low cost.  You can see an example at: <a href="http://www.nexgraphix.com/home.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nexgraphix.com/home.html</a>.   Most of these companies focus on low cost print, so there is a lot of room for low-cost websites.</p>
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		<title>By: tony sheng</title>
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		<dc:creator>tony sheng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 01:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not much more to add here except one personal tidbit.  the reason i stay on blogspot [well besides being cheap...] is that i think it&#039;s a pretty good precedent for doing something very inexpensively and functional.  granted, my design probably isn&#039;t that great, but i think it&#039;s overall pretty functional.  one big thing we tried to do was to make all admin digital as well - mission applications, support letter material, etc. - all downloadable.  we achieved that last summer and it made our processes much more adapatable and streamlined.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not much more to add here except one personal tidbit.  the reason i stay on blogspot [well besides being cheap...] is that i think it&#8217;s a pretty good precedent for doing something very inexpensively and functional.  granted, my design probably isn&#8217;t that great, but i think it&#8217;s overall pretty functional.  one big thing we tried to do was to make all admin digital as well &#8211; mission applications, support letter material, etc. &#8211; all downloadable.  we achieved that last summer and it made our processes much more adapatable and streamlined.</p>
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		<title>By: djchuang</title>
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		<dc:creator>djchuang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 00:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeremy, here to answer your page :) I think the idea is great, and as an open-source voluntary effort, a manual or website + manual can be compiled to help people learn to use WordPress and Blogger. Some non-techies already do that, and that&#039;s why there are millions of people with a web presence of some sort, be it on MySpace, Facebook, YouTube, Blogger, or WordPress. So the technology part is actually easy. 

I think the more challenging part is knowing what content to provide, and realizing how often one has to update the profile or website. This is where people need a lil&#039; coaching to say here&#039;s what you can type out and/or say, and to make an update once a week or more often.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeremy, here to answer your page <img src='http://jeremydelrio.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I think the idea is great, and as an open-source voluntary effort, a manual or website + manual can be compiled to help people learn to use WordPress and Blogger. Some non-techies already do that, and that&#8217;s why there are millions of people with a web presence of some sort, be it on MySpace, Facebook, YouTube, Blogger, or WordPress. So the technology part is actually easy. </p>
<p>I think the more challenging part is knowing what content to provide, and realizing how often one has to update the profile or website. This is where people need a lil&#8217; coaching to say here&#8217;s what you can type out and/or say, and to make an update once a week or more often.</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph Castillo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ralph Castillo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 04:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Intriguing, but I&#039;m definitely in the category of non-techie who would be making use of the instructional manuals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Intriguing, but I&#8217;m definitely in the category of non-techie who would be making use of the instructional manuals.</p>
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